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Andrew Millison left a comment for edkemper
"Okay Ed, here's my "armchair" analysis, without looking at the soils or the health of the ecology, both upland and wetland. It seems to me that the "flat" upper area has a lot of roads crisscrossing through that are probably…"
Jan 17
edkemper left a comment for Andrew Millison
"Maybe this will help? I really do appreciate you continuing to try to help me. Ed MyProperty.pdf"
Jan 16
Andrew Millison left a comment for edkemper
"Ed, It takes me to Google Earth, but you referred to your chicken scratch and I don't get any info other than being zoomed in to the property. Is the total area that I'm shown on the screen the property boundaries, or is there some other…"
Jan 16
edkemper left a comment for Andrew Millison
"Andrew, The attachment is a Google Earth link. PropertyBoundry1.kmz"
Jan 16
Andrew Millison left a comment for edkemper
"Ed, That link took me to a site, but whatever lines or notes you made did not come through for me. Would you be willing to give it another try? Andrew"
Jan 16
edkemper left a comment for Andrew Millison
"Andrew,I sure thank you for your help.I hope you can understand my chicken scratch notes. > the average yearly rainfall in Chiloquin It's averaging 20 inches annual.PropertyBoundry1.kmz Let me know what you think. Ed"
Jan 15
Andrew Millison left a comment for edkemper
"Ed, Sounds like you have enough land to do substantial water management. 20' drop is definitely enough to move water around to where you want it. What is the average yearly rainfall in Chiloquin? If you send me a link to the location with the…"
Jan 14
edkemper left a comment for Andrew Millison
"I have approx. 160 acres of high desert woodlands and another almost 160 acres of protected wetlands. The dry land is mostly dusty dead soil in the summer. Some bushes around but mostly second growth lodgepole pine trees. There isn't but about…"
Jan 12
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"I mean Klamath Lake..."
Jan 12
Andrew Millison left a comment for edkemper
"Welcome Ed. Looks like there's a lot of water from the upper watershed flowing through Chiloquin down to Crater Lake. What type of terrain is your property located on? Andrew"
Jan 12
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I bought high desert property and want to make it lush and natural. Want to farm the property and need water management.

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At 12:06pm on January 17, 2012, Andrew Millison said…

Okay Ed, here's my "armchair" analysis, without looking at the soils or the health of the ecology, both upland and wetland. It seems to me that the "flat" upper area has a lot of roads crisscrossing through that are probably altering the drainage patterns in a negative way. Broad-scale agriculture up there would be inhospitable, I think you'd want a series of swales starting from the uppermost area stepping down to the top of the river bank to infiltrate water in the ground and establish vegetation. I would concentrate any production on the South facing and SE facing slopes down to the river. There you have a nice edged microclimate. I would also place the house, or village core or whatever at the top of the bank, near the center of the property. So you're infiltrating water and establishing vegetation on the plateau stepping down towards the house(?) and then terracing from the house down to the river you're tucking gardens and fruit and nut trees amongst the existing trees, irrigation with greywater, stored rainwater, and then possibly diverting water from off-contour swales in the upper plateau to garden catchment areas tucked into those S & SE slopes.

THEN you develop the river edge with chinampa systems, that can be woven throughout the wetland areas. I can't elaborate much without seeing the level of disturbance or continuity of the wetland areas. Are those protected intact habitats or degraded and full of invasives and in need of restoration? Major earthworks within the wetland system to create higher and lower areas of intense edge would be one model, that would involve a lot of initial disturbance to the area (look up chinampa).

That's a pretty broad stroke on a general strategy for zoning and water management, without knowing any real details from you. Let me know if you can see what I see.

Take care,

Andrew

At 10:54pm on January 16, 2012, Andrew Millison said…

Ed,

It takes me to Google Earth, but you referred to your chicken scratch and I don't get any info other than being zoomed in to the property. Is the total area that I'm shown on the screen the property boundaries, or is there some other information that's meant to come through?

Thanks

At 8:50pm on January 16, 2012, Andrew Millison said…

Ed,

That link took me to a site, but whatever lines or notes you made did not come through for me. Would you be willing to give it another try?

Andrew

At 5:32pm on January 14, 2012, Andrew Millison said…

Ed,

Sounds like you have enough land to do substantial water management. 20' drop is definitely enough to move water around to where you want it. What is the average yearly rainfall in Chiloquin? If you send me a link to the location with the property boundaries, I can give you my armchair impression of the water management potential.

Take care,

Andrew

At 2:02pm on January 12, 2012, Andrew Millison said…

I mean Klamath Lake...

At 2:01pm on January 12, 2012, Andrew Millison said…

Welcome Ed. Looks like there's a lot of water from the upper watershed flowing through Chiloquin down to Crater Lake. What type of terrain is your property located on?

Andrew

 
 
 

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